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Beyond the echo chambers
The uncertainty and division we are seeing in the world right now is increasing. People want answers to uncomfortable questions.
Law professor Markus Wagner and lawyer and software developer David Turner are the hosts of the The Civic Podcast: Beyond the Echo Chambers. We may not always agree on everything (or you with them), but we give challenging ideas a fair hearing. We know that when it comes to difficult conversations, understanding doesn't mean consensus.
Subscribe to The Civic Podcast and join Markus and David as they talk about the stories in politics, economics, law and society that are shaping our world.
Meet Your Hosts
David Turner
Lawyer and software developer
David Turner is a lawyer and software developer from Sydney, Australia.
As the principal lawyer of Empirical Legal, David advises Australian startups, scale-ups and small businesses on corporate advisory and technology challenges. David is a former President of NSW Young Lawyers and a former Councillor of the Law Society of NSW.
As a co-founder of Lext, David works to make the law easier to access and easier to practise through software. Lext develops its own software-as-a-service products, and also works with government agencies, law firms and not-for-profit organisations to develop technological solutions to law and justice problems.
Markus Wagner
Professor of International and Comparative Law
Markus Wagner is Professor of Law at the University of Wollongong, Australia and has advised the private sector, governments and international organizations.
An award-winning instructor, his academic work and consulting are focused on the intersections of international trade law and governance, and international peace and security, as well as US and Australian constitutional law.
His research has been published in prestigious, peer-reviewed journals and profiled by media outlets around the world. Professor Wagner is a sought after commentator on TV, radio and other news outlets.